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with egypt at the back hamas will go all out. if they are telling hamas we are have the brother hood. and we have to find a way out of this with stabbility in tact that is going to be a different outcome. >> i think there is no question it was justified. the attacks, they had gone crazy in terms of the scope and intensity. the problem is that the people there, they have a tactical approach here. they are hitting back and have been trying to do this. israel has invaded gaza and these are tactical moves and they succeed. but what is the strategy to deal with gaza? how does this help and how does it play out with the regional strategy? so, i think there is no question it is just fied, the question is, is it smart? is. >> there is real concern and if you don't have cooperation, ultimately you can't control gaza. this undermines the authority and probably is going to undermine the un path which it might like because it shows that the palestinians are divided. we spoke to the prime minister. how big should this be for the us? the admin
with egypt at the back hamas will go all out. if they are telling hamas we are have the brother hood. and we have to find a way out of this with stabbility in tact that is going to be a different outcome. >> i think there is no question it was justified. the attacks, they had gone crazy in terms of the scope and intensity. the problem is that the people there, they have a tactical approach here. they are hitting back and have been trying to do this. israel has invaded gaza and these are...
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egypt has, in fact, i think hamas will go out. but if egyptians are telling hamas, we got the muslim brotherhood and egypt is telling hamas, we have to find a way out of this with some stability intact, that is a different outkom >> fareed, how do you see this? . >> no question, it's justified. the attacks were out of gaza by hamas, were completely -- they had gone crazy in temps of the scope, intensity, and hamas was openly taking credit for them, rather than disavowing them. the problem, netanyahu people, bibi and barack, they have a tactical approach. they are hitting back and remember, they have been trying the do this with israel has invaded gaza and they have economically choked gaza, and they have succeeded. they have overwhelming force. what is the strategy to deal with gaza? how does this help israel in its long-term strategy? how does it play out with the regional strategy where israel's relations with egypt have deteriorated. its relations with turkey have deteriorated, so no question it is justified, but the question i
egypt has, in fact, i think hamas will go out. but if egyptians are telling hamas, we got the muslim brotherhood and egypt is telling hamas, we have to find a way out of this with some stability intact, that is a different outkom >> fareed, how do you see this? . >> no question, it's justified. the attacks were out of gaza by hamas, were completely -- they had gone crazy in temps of the scope, intensity, and hamas was openly taking credit for them, rather than disavowing them. the...
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egypt has recalled its ambassador to israel. in the meantime, the u.s. state department condemned the strikes fired from gaza and supporting israel's right to defend itself. i talked about all of this with sara sidner and also david kirkpatrick of "the new york times" and cnn's fareed zakaria. what is the latest on the attacks and the fallout? >> what we are seeing are more rockets coming into israel. there have been dozens of air strikes, as well since the killing of ahmed al jabarry, who is the leader of hamas' military wing, but he is also one of the founders of hamas. we are talking about a huge blow to hamas, and now the government there in gaza. israel is also telling us, and we've just heard this from its military spokesperson, that they are bringing in reservists, but they are considering a ground war, but have not yet given the go-ahead for that, but they are preparing. we know that they have been firing with the air with the air strikes, but we also know that they have been firing from the sea. their ships are anchored just off of the sea there
egypt has recalled its ambassador to israel. in the meantime, the u.s. state department condemned the strikes fired from gaza and supporting israel's right to defend itself. i talked about all of this with sara sidner and also david kirkpatrick of "the new york times" and cnn's fareed zakaria. what is the latest on the attacks and the fallout? >> what we are seeing are more rockets coming into israel. there have been dozens of air strikes, as well since the killing of ahmed al...
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>> well, i'm more concerned of egypt. the muslim brotherhood is in power now, and it is unsteady power. they have to find the fine line between the secular military and the opponents. if there is a battle, it is inside egypt. >> and we were talking today earlier to find out that one by one all of the major security breaches are down played and in the end, we are left with general petraeus having had an affair, an affair discovered by the fbi under different circumstance, and in this circumstance, could he have ridden it out? >> well, he, himself, could not ride it out. he did the honorable thing and resigned. he knew that the announcement that he had been having an affair with someone not his wife, he knows the affect on this organization and the institution, and both the institution of the agency and of the military. and so he did exactly what one would expect of an honorable man and he tendered his resignation. >> and we have had general eisenhower, and general patton and president j.f. kennedy and all of them stayed in
>> well, i'm more concerned of egypt. the muslim brotherhood is in power now, and it is unsteady power. they have to find the fine line between the secular military and the opponents. if there is a battle, it is inside egypt. >> and we were talking today earlier to find out that one by one all of the major security breaches are down played and in the end, we are left with general petraeus having had an affair, an affair discovered by the fbi under different circumstance, and in this...
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and fred, tell us why egypt is such a concern this time around. >> oh, egypt is a huge concern this time around, carol, because first of all, it has a new and very islamist government in place that, of course, for many people especially hamas in gaza believe it's more on the sides of hamas than governments in egypt have been before. there are people who believe egypt might not stand idle by as this is happening as the government did in the past when hosni mubarak was still in power. certainly egypt plays a lynchpin role in all of this. the egyptians not very happy, not only did they call for condemnation of israeli air strikes in gaza but also recalled their ambassador here from israel and responded the israeli ambassador. certainly egypt is a big concern. meanwhile, the israeli military operation in gaza is going on. there have been further air strikes. about 100 missile sites targeted by the israeli military. they're saying they're trying to target especially medium and long-range missiles they believe could be a threat to towns like tel aviv and other towns around gaza. israeli prime
and fred, tell us why egypt is such a concern this time around. >> oh, egypt is a huge concern this time around, carol, because first of all, it has a new and very islamist government in place that, of course, for many people especially hamas in gaza believe it's more on the sides of hamas than governments in egypt have been before. there are people who believe egypt might not stand idle by as this is happening as the government did in the past when hosni mubarak was still in power....
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>> hamas is getting moral support if you will primarily from egypt. hamas is considered to be the muslim brotherhood of the palestinians and president morsi of egypt has been stepping in trying to assert. he withdrew his ambassador. not a huge move but trying to lend moral support. they're condemning the israeli actions calling for calm. now there's some talk about them canceling the camp david accords, revisiting that. forget that. at the end of the day, as much criticism as the egypts get from the americans and the israelis, they may end up being the ones to negotiate a broker's truce in this whole deal because they do hold sway with hamas. >> is it clear how long this is going on? israel will say -- >> absolutely, 50 years. >> well, and a very large umbrella kind of sense. but recently, you know, we are talking about israel saying they were bombarded in recent weeks. hamas says they're being bombarded in recent days. which is it? >> typical tit for tat. it has a life of its own and it could spread to a much wider region, much wider effects on the d
>> hamas is getting moral support if you will primarily from egypt. hamas is considered to be the muslim brotherhood of the palestinians and president morsi of egypt has been stepping in trying to assert. he withdrew his ambassador. not a huge move but trying to lend moral support. they're condemning the israeli actions calling for calm. now there's some talk about them canceling the camp david accords, revisiting that. forget that. at the end of the day, as much criticism as the egypts...
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egypt needs to breathe through their nose and just stay where they are. hamas and israel are going to have to work this out, and they don't need to have other folks meddling other than to try to get them to calm down, you know, settle the situation a little bit. >> to the other story that we're following. obviously, the scandal involving the former cia director general david petraeus and general allen, john allen. secretary of defense leon panetta has jumped into all of this, ordering an ethics training for generals to be reviewed here. do you think, first of all, that that is the right way to go? do you think that's an adequate response at this time? you have been a general 30 years in the military. is this kind of review helpful? >> it is, suzanne. every time the military has a challenge that demonstrates a weakness in one of those elements that would -- that we would call foundational to the success of the military, you have to take what's called a stand-down or a review. you spend time focussing very narrowly and deeply on one particular vertical and
egypt needs to breathe through their nose and just stay where they are. hamas and israel are going to have to work this out, and they don't need to have other folks meddling other than to try to get them to calm down, you know, settle the situation a little bit. >> to the other story that we're following. obviously, the scandal involving the former cia director general david petraeus and general allen, john allen. secretary of defense leon panetta has jumped into all of this, ordering an...
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egypt decided to remove its ambassador to israel last night. we were talking to the foreign ministry, a spokesman there, who was telling us that they were not told immediately that they had to call egypt and ask if the ambassador had indeed left. and that turned out to be true. so you're seeing quite a bit of a response there from egypt. egypt making statements about what israel is doing in gaza, but israel responding, saying that they have been the target of 120 rockets since saturday. that has grown exponentially over the past day or so. they've seen now hundreds of rockets coming into israel, and they say as long as they are being attacked, they are going to return and retaliation for those attacks. >> sara sidner, live along the israel/gaza border, thank. >>> david petraeus will testify after all about the attack in benghazi. when he resigned last week, he withdrew from a congressional hearing. now the ex-cia director has agreed to meet behind closed doors with the senate committee some time soon and the house committee tomorrow. new york r
egypt decided to remove its ambassador to israel last night. we were talking to the foreign ministry, a spokesman there, who was telling us that they were not told immediately that they had to call egypt and ask if the ambassador had indeed left. and that turned out to be true. so you're seeing quite a bit of a response there from egypt. egypt making statements about what israel is doing in gaza, but israel responding, saying that they have been the target of 120 rockets since saturday. that...
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is that peace treaty stween israel and egypt on the verge of collapse? >> it's vital not just for israel, egypt, it's vital for the entire region, for the world. we understand this. we think the egyptians understand this full well. the egyptians have played a constructive role in the past mediating -- i think they can play the similar role today. >> are they? >> i think they can. >> but are that? >> that's all i can say right now is i think they can play a constructive role. and we hope they will. >> that suggests to me they're not yet doing that. >> well, right now the situation's very fluid on the ground. and hamas shows every intention of escalating further. it's not stepping down. >> mr. ambassador, thanks very much for coming in. we're watching this situation very, very closely. >> thank you, wolf. >> michael oren is the israeli ambassador to the united states. in our next hour we're going to take a look at what the u.s. -- if the u.s. can do anything about this escalating violence that's going on, the tensions escalating between the israelis and th
is that peace treaty stween israel and egypt on the verge of collapse? >> it's vital not just for israel, egypt, it's vital for the entire region, for the world. we understand this. we think the egyptians understand this full well. the egyptians have played a constructive role in the past mediating -- i think they can play the similar role today. >> are they? >> i think they can. >> but are that? >> that's all i can say right now is i think they can play a...